Episode 36 - Change (Season 1 Finale)

In our season one finale, we tackle the topic of change—how do we handle our everchanging lives and selves, and how might be approach making changes in an effective way? Our conversation leads us to discussions on grief, articulating our needs, and how to better support people. Robyn goes to see the Trans Siberian Orchestra and Michelle loves that she doesn’t have to shovel. 

Recorded on December 8th, 2024

Timestamps:

(0:20) Intro
(0:42) Robyn’s check-in
(4:54) Michelle’s check-in
(12:45) Main topic: Change
(19:13) Identity and change as failure
(28:09) Self-protection, doing the best we can, and making different choices
(40:32) Communicating your needs
(46:14) Supporting people who are grieving
(50:51) Learning to listen
(57:56) Building a flexible identity
(1:04:19) When you want to change something
(1:18:30) Podcast changes
(1:27:43) Our intentions going forward

Resources, references, and further exploration:

Trans Siberian Orchestra: https://www.trans-siberian.com/
Jamie Cullum’s Song Society: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk8E9b6preU&list=PL_xCVmPYrLMhkNFVQh0kUrH7TcZASwvTe

Books mentioned:

Songwriting Without Boundaries by Pat Pattison https://www.patpattison.com/store
Master of Change by Brad Stulberg: https://www.bradstulberg.com/books

Quotes, ideas, and insights:

Amor Fati: https://dailystoic.com/amor-fati/

“slow moments are common after a period of serious growth they should not be feared but embraced as opportunities to get to know the new you as you mature, you release so many layers that you sometimes change radically, and your mind and body feel like a new home slow moments are for renewal and integration of recent lessons learned but a slow pace often finds a way to test how you have grown; this is an important time to observe your progress and notice where you need further work” - yung pueblo (Diego Perez) - Clarity and Connection, Page 173

“Well-being is realized by small steps, but is truly no small thing.” - Zeno (Source: https://dailystoic.com/remember-little-things-are-not-small/)

Links:

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Credits:

Art by: Robyn Lester
Music by: Michelle Monette
Editing by: Michelle Monette